This article was originally published on Vladimir Megre’s blog on October 8, 2021. Translated by the Anastasia Foundation.
A conversation between Vladimir Nikolaevich Megre and writer and coach Inga Drim.
Transcript
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEDE1b5BaLE
Inga: Friends, good afternoon! A bright, pure, beautiful Monday. A Monday that helps dreams come true. My one hundred and seventy-second Monday. A field has already been created, and it’s working. I can see how many people are joining quickly — those who’ve been waiting for this moment, who’ve been waiting for this livestream. I’m now waiting for the invitation from our guest, with whom we’ve already managed to chat for a good half hour. There are so many of you, and that makes me happy — it tells me your hearts are responding to something close to my own heart. Good day, dear ones! I hope everything works out for us. Vladimir is already online. Vladimir Nikolaevich, please send the invitation. I’m so glad for this meeting. Hello, Vladimir Nikolaevich!
V. Megre: Hello, my dear ones!
Inga: Today there’s quite a buzz. I’ve been waiting for this moment for twenty-two years. Why twenty-two years? Because I first encountered the book we’re going to talk about today, the heroine you gave to the world — I first discovered her back in 1999. When I read the first book, I did a poll, and it showed that 54% of my audience — actually 56% — still didn’t know about Anastasia. And this is a wonderful opportunity for us today to give the world what came into my life in 1999, when Anastasia and your books arrived — to give the world this possibility. I really want to tell you: thanks to the books, to Anastasia, and to you, life becomes brighter, purer, happier, more joyful, and more conscious.
Vladimir Nikolaevich, dear, I wish you a long and happy life — right from the start!
Today I really want you to speak. We have so many questions. People are writing: “I’m rereading the eighth book, I know the eleventh one has come out.” I was reading bits and pieces — “Where is our Vladimir, what’s happening with him?”
Today we’ll have lots of questions. But first, I’d like to hand things over to you, so you can greet those who know you and those who don’t — I know you have a range of experiences — and say your welcoming words.
V. Megre: Thank you, Inga! What a beautiful woman. Thank you to everyone who has joined our conversation.
For those who don’t know about the books, I want to share the backstory of how they were written.
How It All Began
At the start of perestroika [the late-1980s era of Soviet political and economic reform], I was an entrepreneur. I had large river ships, and I sailed along Siberian rivers on these ships, all the way to the Arctic Circle and back. I’d meet with locals, trade goods — I was a businessman. President of the Association of Entrepreneurs — back then they were still called cooperators — of Siberia.
I loved going to remote places where there were no railways, no highways, no automobile roads — places you could only reach by river. In one of these places, I met some very elderly people, old folks, who told me about a ringing cedar. And the following year, I decided to repeat my expedition specifically to search for this ringing cedar.
At first I was skeptical about it, but after returning from the expedition, I started researching — what is a cedar, and what is a ringing cedar? I discovered that even before the Revolution [the Russian Revolution of 1917], Academician Pallas [Peter Simon Pallas, an 18th-century naturalist who explored Siberia] had spoken about cedars and reported to Catherine the Great about their properties. That cedars are mentioned extensively in the Bible — the Lebanese cedar, granted — but the Siberian cedar turned out to be even more powerful than the Lebanese one, because, as it says in the Bible, “by their fruits you shall judge them.”
But I couldn’t find those old men again, and at one of the ship’s stopping points, I went ashore alone and saw a woman standing by herself on the riverbank. She was wearing a padded jacket, a headscarf, and rubber galoshes — the kind Siberians wear in summer. I walked up to her and asked if she knew anything about the old men around here who had offered to show me a ringing cedar. And she suddenly replies: “Yes, I know about the cedar. Last year it was my grandfather and great-grandfather who met with you, Vladimir.”
She called me by name, though I’d never seen her before. And she extended her hand forward, as if for a kiss, like some society lady. I actually found it funny — I didn’t kiss her hand, just shook it, and agreed to go into the taiga with her. She said we’d need to walk twenty-five kilometers through the taiga. Well, I decided to go with her.
I went back to the ship, grabbed a pistol, a little food, a bottle of cognac, and set off. After walking some distance, I decided to rest and eat at a clearing, and offered her some cognac. She refused and said, “You go ahead and eat — I’m going to bathe in the sunshine.” With those words, she took off the headscarf, the padded jacket, the long skirt, leaving just a short dress, lay down on the ground, spread her arms, and just lay there in the sun.
And I saw that before me was an extraordinarily beautiful woman. Her beauty was utterly unusual — first of all, she radiated an enormous amount of energy, and second, she wasn’t thin the way fashion models are; she had this luminous, well-nourished skin. I looked at her and thought, “Why did she lie down like that?” Why do women wear short skirts, low necklines? Obviously, to attract a man’s attention. Maybe she lay down to get my attention, and I’m not paying any attention to her — meaning I’d be insulting her by ignoring it.
So I moved closer, took her by the shoulders, and leaned in a little. And she said: “Don’t, Vladimir.” But I leaned in anyway — well, women always refuse at first. I leaned toward her and lost consciousness. When I came to, I saw her kneeling in front of me with her hand on my chest, saying: “It’s all right, it’s already passed. It’s already passed.” You’ll read about this in the book — what exactly passed and what happened and why. But I’ll just say: I walked with her to her clearing, where she lives, and there were no structures of any kind.
She says: “Here we are.” We’d arrived at her home.
I say: “Where’s the house? Where’s the kettle to boil some tea?”
You’ll read about that in the book too.
Three Days That Changed Everything
But here’s what happened next. I spent three days with her there, and she spoke at great length about our current reality and made predictions. She said I would write a book, that many people would read it, that this book would call to them, and so on and so on.
Of course, I didn’t believe that could happen. I said it was impossible, because I’m not a writer, I never studied for it, and so forth. She then took a stick and drew the entire Russian alphabet in the sand by the lake.
She says: “All books are made of these letters. Do you see them?”
I say: “I see them, but they have to be arranged somehow.”
She says: “Yes, they have to be arranged. But I’ll show you how to arrange them so they work automatically — and they will be potent.”
Then she said the most incredible things — how she dreamed about what should happen in the world, how she searched the entire universe for the finest cosmic sounds and composed these sounds from those letters. Of course, this is fantastical, hard to believe. But however you look at it, her monologues were so passionate. She spoke about nature, about how the current path is a dead end, about why the water is polluted. A lot of people talk about these things. But the thing is, she laid out this incredible plan for how to fix all of it.
And in the end, I did write these books, and people really did start reading them — a great many people. And truly, something incredible began happening to these people. I can tell you that after reading these books, readers in Russia built more than four hundred settlements made up of Kin’s Domains. That was her central idea, as voiced by Anastasia. She spoke about so many things — how to store nuclear waste, how to clean the air in large cities.
I challenged her to compete with a computer, after she said — well, she said, “What is a computer? It’s a not-very-successful prosthesis for the brain.”
I said: “Then compete with it, if you think a computer is just a brain prosthesis.”
And I proposed that she solve the problem of cleaning the air in large cities. She solved it. She said: “The biggest source of pollution is automobiles moving along roads. And it’s not even the exhaust gases so much as the tires — when they wear against the asphalt, you get rubber dust, which mixes with ordinary dust and exhaust fumes, then gets into the water and doesn’t dissolve.” And she described how to collect it. At first glance it sounded completely absurd — you attach a box under the bumpers of cars that collects this dust. I can tell you this idea has now been partially patented. And nobody has come up with anything better, because hundreds of thousands of tons could be collected by these cars in a single week in one city — say, Moscow. Going forward, I think many people are already working on this idea. If you have someone who’d like to try solving it…
She spoke about space exploration. For example, she says that space exploration is a dead end — your dead end path. Space exploration isn’t a technocratic path, it’s a psycho-telepathic one. In short, she had many such ideas about the nature of existence. She knows the history of humanity in detail — absolute detail — from the creation of the Earth and of humankind. She tells it all clearly: how God created, how the Earth was made, then how humans were made, how the first encounter between man and woman took place.
When I’d written ten books, I went back and reread them the way she’d described. She said: “You should read these books when there are no sounds of the technocratic world nearby — only natural sounds: birdsong, the rustling of leaves, the chirping of insects in the grass.” I read those books and was deeply, deeply surprised, because they contain incredible things that are impossible not to believe.
Inga: Friends, we’re having a little lag. I hope it’ll resolve itself now. Look, we’ve got a bit of a freeze — if the connection drops, don’t worry, Vladimir Nikolaevich will definitely come back. Indeed, as you’re writing, it’s impossible not to believe. We lost him briefly, but I think he’ll reappear. I don’t want to interrupt, don’t want to stop him, because everything he’s saying is invaluable. You’d have to be some kind of genius to make up something like this on your own. I’m not diminishing Vladimir Nikolaevich’s abilities. You can feel that he’s deeply sincere, you know — like a sponge, like a bridge. Yes, people are saying this is very high-vibrational information, that’s why it’s freezing up. Right, it knocks things out, plus there’s interference from those who don’t want this kind of information to spread. Here’s our dear Vladimir Nikolaevich back with us again.
Anastasia’s Word Combinations, “The Finest Sounds of the Universe”
V. Megre: Can you hear me now?
Inga: Yes, everything’s great. I was saying I don’t want to interrupt you. People are saying this is high-vibrational information, that’s why it’s knocking the signal out. We’re all listening with bated breath, so grateful — everything you’re saying is incredibly valuable. You’re absolutely right — people are saying they read the books accompanied by birdsong, the rustling of leaves, out in nature, with their children.
V. Megre: May I continue?
Inga: Of course, we’re waiting — please continue.
V. Megre: I started reading these books, and then I learned that several universities in Russia and abroad are studying what she says. In Russia there’s a leading university — Lomonosov Moscow State University — and a group of scientists there began studying Anastasia’s project, everything she had said. These scientists were the first to declare that this woman has preserved the information of the primordial sources, and that this same information exists within every person alive on Earth, but we can’t retrieve it from within ourselves — or we retrieve it to varying degrees, some more, some less. But in her, this information has been preserved intact.
Something else that intrigued me was when she said: “I gathered the finest sounds of the universe, and now they will be potent.” I also worked with a group of scientists, connecting with them, to explore whether it’s even possible for a person to gather the finest sounds of the universe.
And then one of the scientists, a linguist, says: “Guys, there’s actually nothing unusual about this.”
Nothing unusual? Everyone turned to look at him.
He says: “Think about it. If someone writes a joke using these letters — other people will laugh. If a good writer writes a tragedy — people will empathize with the characters, they’ll cry. If someone writes a romance — different feelings will arise. This means that combinations of letters are essentially codes, and most likely, in this case, she’s talking about universal codes through which influence is exerted on people. It’s specifically her monologues that possess these qualities — there’s a colossal effect on people, and they change their entire way of life. They begin creating Kin’s Domains.”
She says the world can be transformed through Kin’s Domains, and that new knowledge will keep coming to people, and they will change qualitatively, even on the physical plane. And that all of this is possible — she demonstrated it in practice. In the history of humanity, there has been nothing comparable to this kind of influence through ordinary sounds. These people who began creating settlements and Kin’s Domains — they heard nothing but these sounds, nothing but these books. Sure, they read other things, but nothing else had this kind of effect on them. And suddenly — there it was!
There was Stolypin [Pyotr Stolypin, early 20th-century Russian prime minister who led agrarian reforms encouraging settlement of Siberia] — people also went to Siberia and cultivated the land, but that was something different. They were given railway cars, they were given start-up grants, free land, their travel was paid for, they got bank loans. Here, there was nothing.
Kin’s Domains and Their Power
Right now, she advocates for people receiving land for free. But that hasn’t happened in Russia yet, so people had to buy land. Many bought land with what may have been their last savings. They took a hectare of land each and began cultivating these domains. And when I visit some of these domains now — I have my own in the Vladimir region — if you look from above, from a drone, you can see it’s different from a village, different from a city. It’s beautiful — incredibly beautiful. And the people there are changing too.
Right now, on the nineteenth, we have parliamentary elections in Russia. And just imagine — three out of four parliamentary parties have adopted this idea as part of their platform. True, they change the wording slightly and make a mistake in doing so — people don’t respond to it. For example, the LDPR party says: “We need to create family estates.” Bam! Not Kin’s Domains — family estates. People immediately tell them: “That’s not what you should be saying. It should be Kin’s Domains.”
Why is that? Because an image has already been created. And eventually, I believe, a party will emerge that adopts these laws using these codes. And it will become Russia’s leading party. Right now, the Green Party — it’s not yet a parliamentary party — comes closest to speaking in the language of the books, let’s put it that way.
What else I want to say. I was watching your Instagram, Inga. Before speaking here, I watched you talk about the living hedge around your property. You don’t seem to have a hectare there, do you?
Inga: No, we have less. This is our house here.
V. Megre: It doesn’t matter — that’s not the point. I’ll explain later why it needs to be exactly a hectare. I watched you talk about your trees with such love, such tenderness, such warmth — in other words, with feeling. You don’t just walk past the hedge — you give them your feelings. Your feelings of love, your feelings of tenderness, your feelings of kindness. Do you know what happens to them in that moment?
Inga: I can guess. They’re alive — they feel attention, just like any living being on Earth.
V. Megre: Yes, of course. It turns out they all respond to humans. And in your case, you are not an ordinary person to them — you are the most desired thing they could have. Because human feelings are everything to all plants and animals. A dog, for instance — it gives its feelings to you, and if you pet it, that’s better than any treat. Trees and flowers are the same way. A person leaves, and the flowers can wilt, even if a neighbor waters them — because the neighbor approaches them with different feelings. This has been proven by science too — they all respond.
I can tell you that you will never die. Even if you fall asleep for a little while, you will be reborn, because a person always reincarnates on Earth — so says Anastasia — if someone calls for them, if someone needs them. And how can you call a person back? To truly call them means to love them, to want them to return. This space where you were practically dancing with your plants — it will definitely call you back. It can’t exist without you anymore; it longs for you. And beyond that, you’ve connected this space to your relatives. You speak their names. This phenomenon is simply extraordinary.
A person who is now creating a Kin’s Domain — as I said, this is Anastasia’s central idea: through the creation of Kin’s Domains, a different reality can be built on Earth — a person who creates a Kin’s Domain and thinks about their ancestors… Some people plant an entire memorial avenue of trees in honor of their departed relatives. But do you know what this person is really doing? The most important thing is: they are reuniting their scattered, broken, forgotten lineage. The souls of these people don’t die — that’s a law of physics.
The human soul is energy — various energies that exist throughout the universe. Small particles of these universal energies reside within a person, and that’s what we call the soul. These energies can scatter when a person so-called “dies” — or they can remain intact.
When do they scatter? When a person didn’t understand their purpose — then this energetic complex disintegrates, and bits of it end up in an ant, a caterpillar, a bird, some plant.
And when does this complex remain whole and intact? When someone calls for the whole person to return to Earth.
A person who has reunited their lineage will be called back to Earth by an enormous, enormous energy. That person becomes the founder of their line — or you could say the gatherer of their line. This is an incredibly powerful energy, simply incredibly powerful. This energy gathers within this person. And this isn’t only my view. The first person to say something like this was a woman — a wheelchair-bound woman who began building her Kin’s Domain alone. She started from a tent. She began planting her first plants, her garden beds, crawling on the ground. And now she no longer crawls. She has a house now, with special walkways designed for her comfort. I was there when a family from America visited her — the man was also in a wheelchair — and the way she received them, with such dignity.
The energy that emerged in her helped her overcome her difficulties. For her, it was pure joy. She says: “What’s the big deal? I used to live in a two-room apartment — just rolling forward and back a little. But now there’s open space, now there are friends.”
Children Born in Kin’s Domains
Anastasia speaks at length about raising children.
At first I didn’t fully understand, even though I wrote it all down like a chronicler — everything I saw, everything I heard. But now I’m thinking it all through. Look at it this way: a person born in a Kin’s Domain. Say a person is born in an apartment. We’re used to thinking we need to buy a nice rattle, a noisemaker. There they are, lying in their pretty little stroller, slapping the rattle with their little hand — it makes noise, how interesting. But a person born in a Kin’s Domain sees birds, sees caterpillars, sees animals of all kinds.
And what is the animal kingdom, the flora and fauna? Even a caterpillar is a supreme masterpiece created by God. And so this child is in contact with the thoughts of God — studying them, understanding them — and develops a different kind of mind. This is tremendous.
I remember the book Co-Creation. What would it be like if people built Kin’s Domains all across Russia, then in every country — there would be the most magnificent beauty.
And people say to me: “But what happens when the entire Earth is covered with these domains? Families there have more children — those living in settlements made up of Kin’s Domains.”
And then it occurred to me: The first people who lived on some small island kept growing in number. Eventually they think: “That’s it. We’ve filled everything.” Even though there are millions of other islands on Earth. Not enough dry land, they thought — but they didn’t know all of this existed across the whole Earth. In the same way, the stars are meant for humanity to inhabit. But the exploration of cosmic space is not a technocratic path — it’s a psycho-telepathic one. When humanity has made the entire Earth beautiful and demonstrated its perfection, it will gain the ability to transport itself to another planet. And my beloved woman, or you with your beloved man, could arrive on some star and, just as God created, bring into being a magnificent space there.
“So what?” they tell me. “That planet doesn’t have the right atmosphere, there’s no air.” It will all appear in an instant. Human thought is limitless.
What Is Love?
In the book Co-Creation — that’s one of my favorite books — for those who’ve read it, you’ll remember when Adam and Eve first met. Adam paid absolutely no attention to Eve. He said: “Ugh, well look at that — another creature has come along. There’s nothing new in it; it just looks like me. Horses have stronger knee joints. And it came without even being invited. I was going to give the ants a new designation today.”
And Eve, having stood near Adam for a little while, walked away to a river inlet. And the essences of the universe began to murmur in protest: “Two perfections couldn’t appreciate each other. There is no perfection in God’s creations.”
And only the energy of love, the one that surrounded God, remained — it alone. And she says to Him, to God: “Rest, Great Creator, and instill understanding in your son.”
And He says to her: “Go, my love, descend to Earth and enter into them — all my future sons and daughters.”
Like a comet, the energy of love began flying toward Earth, but before leaving, she said: “My God, I go by the will of your thought — only let me leave a tiny spark of my love with you.” And she hurled herself toward Earth like a comet, to enter into all future sons and daughters. But just before reaching Earth, she looked back and saw that behind her flew a tiny, tiny comet, and love understood that even her very last spark had rushed after her.
And then love cried out: “My God, why didn’t you keep even my one little spark for yourself?”
And God answered: “To keep it for myself would mean to shortchange them — all my future sons and daughters.”
There’s a great depth of meaning in this too. I wanted to say: when the Earth is made beautiful — and in this book it tells how Adam turns to God and says: “Father, when I come to the edge of everything, when I’ve built all that was conceived — what shall I do then?”
And God answers: “My son, the Universe is itself a thought. From thought, a dream was born. When you reach the edge of everything, the new space of your thought will open. My son, you are infinite — you are eternal. Within you are your creative dreams.”
Does Anastasia Exist?
Philosophical conclusions. I saw that there is a philosophy within all of this. I began studying it, and much of it started to captivate me, to astonish me — what has been accomplished there. And I understood that she has already done something truly, truly magnificent.
People ask: does Anastasia exist or not?
Anastasia exists. Anastasia doesn’t merely exist. There’s this passage where she speaks about what has gone wrong on Earth, about all the harm, and she says: “Prepare yourself, evil — leave this Earth. Throw yourself upon me. I stand alone before you — defeat me. Let everyone come against me to achieve victory. The battle will be without a battle.”
And so on — you can read it. She says there: “I will stand firm within people through my soul.”
And when I look at many women, I can see that they carry a piece of Anastasia’s soul within them.
Inga was saying something along those lines — which I didn’t fully catch — that if Megre had made this all up, he’d be a genius.
I was urged to publicly deny that Anastasia exists — and then I’d be hailed as a genius. I recall a scientist in Novosibirsk, when I was at Akademgorodok [the Siberian “Academic City” — a major research hub near Novosibirsk]. I wasn’t presenting there; I was simply listening to the scientists’ presentations. And one well-known scientist said: “Megre couldn’t have made this up. He doesn’t have the capacity for it — and neither do we.”
But why doesn’t she come out? Come out where, tell me? Onto television, to sit on some talk show and listen to what they’d say to her? Well, I appeared on a talk show, and they said Megre is the leader of some unusual cult. That was later debunked. Then they said: “He obviously has people working for him. Can’t you see he’s talking about nuclear physics, metaphysics? Closed research institutes are working behind the scenes.” Fine.
Then another theory: “It was all in ancient texts. Obviously someone dug them out of the Vatican archives and gave them to somebody.” Because there are many unusual things in the books — unusual things that affect people — and that kind of effect is the highest thing one can achieve. So — in this rambling way, I’ve tried to tell the story.
Predictions Coming True
You know, more than twenty years ago, she says: “The President of Russia will issue a decree granting one hectare of land to every citizen, free of charge.”
Three years ago [2017/2018, as this interview took place in 2021], Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, the President of Russia, issued a decree, and the Duma passed this law — in the Russian Far East, every willing citizen would receive one free hectare of land. Tell me: how could a person have foreseen something like this in advance?
You can predict that a book will be popular, that it will spread through the people, that some kind of movement will start. But predicting that? That’s impossible. If some literary agent could predict things like that, they’d be a multi-billionaire — they’d just select books like that and run with it.
I was an unknown author, and I essentially wrote about love, about nature. And people told me: “You know, a book like this isn’t going to sell. Nobody’s going to read it.”
At the time, perestroika was just getting started, lots of foreign authors were being translated in Russia — all sorts of comics, detective novels, world-famous authors. Still, I wrote a small book. Three students took it and printed it at their university. They were just helping me type it, and they kept saying: “You can’t write something this unbelievable — nobody will believe it. Is it a fairy tale or what? What is this?” But they printed it anyway, for free.
Then the book was printed at a printing house, and it just sat there. Since I’d been an entrepreneur, though by that point I’d already left business — I was just sitting and writing — anyway, the printer says: “Look, I printed it like you wanted, but I can’t sell it. I don’t have a retail network. I don’t even work in publishing.” And I could see the books just sitting there; nobody was taking them, not even on consignment with no upfront payment. So I took a stack of those books, went to the metro station, and started selling them myself. I sold a few, and then the printing houses started lining up to ask for more. In Russia, the book Co-Creation was launching with a print run of half a million copies. And that’s how I became a writer. I felt some kind of power in these books, and I still feel it.
You know, I tried to tell you all about this rather chaotically. I’m ready to answer your questions, if you have any. I already know there’s going to be a question about the coronavirus.
The Coronavirus and Changing Our Way of Life
Inga: Exactly — the coronavirus too. I want to comment a little. What people find incomprehensible, unfamiliar… You gave me the dolmens [ancient megalithic stone structures found in southern Russia and elsewhere]. In 1999, I read about them and visited for the first time. Nine years later, in 2008, having forgotten what dolmens are and what one is supposed to do there, I remember telling myself after reading the book that I needed to go.
And the first time, when I’d already written my second book of poetry, I went to Rostov-on-Don and asked: “Are the dolmens near you?”
They said: “Yes.”
I said: “I’m reserving one more day.”
And I visited the dolmens for the first time. And you know, I can’t even put into words what happened to me there. You say the book changes people, that the field created by reading this book changes people. People who travel to the dolmens — their lives change fundamentally. What happened to me there — it opened up a whole field, it opened me to myself. And from the very first days I thought: I’m going to want to bring people here. And just imagine — twenty-two years have passed since that moment. I took friends there, I went with my whole family, I traveled there with my family several times — to Gelendzhik, to the dolmens, to the Tor dolmen, which I remembered, because I myself had gone there in past incarnations.
And what started happening? I began writing poetry. I have eight collections of poetry; I currently have fourteen books. And how remarkable that one of my books is very similar to your Anastasia. That doesn’t mean I plagiarized — it just somehow turned out that way. The book I wrote after that, What a Woman Wants, God Wants, I wrote it in a flow state — I had no idea where the words were coming from, Old Slavonic words. I even wrote you a letter back in 2008, though of course it never reached you.
I wanted to tell you: I have a sense of what it’s like to write when something is being dictated to you, because that’s how it is for me. Because this field starts to… You talk about what happens to flowers or trees when you touch them, when you love them — and they give this energy back to you. They also somehow want to make shade for you, create beauty, lift your spirits. The field — it’s about that.
And I started dreaming about bringing people there. Vladimir Nikolaevich, just imagine — literally in April I created an online pilgrimage that one hundred and sixty people attended. In this pilgrimage I’m the organizer, and there’s also the wonderful Galina, who also writes you letters and sends her regards. Galina invites you to a retreat she’s planning for September. Galina is with us here in this livestream, and she asked me to tell you that people are waiting for you. People who live near the dolmens, whose lives were transformed by your books.
Thanks to this field that was created through you, by Anastasia through you — people start writing deeply moving poetry, start writing powerful books. And every single one of them, truly, bows to you in gratitude for the fact that only God and you will know the truth — whether Anastasia was real, whether she exists, whether you met her, whether you had children together. But to each according to their faith — and by our faith we perceive. For me, this is reality.
For me, the experience of kissing my flowers, talking to them — they don’t die, they don’t fade, they burst into bloom. When people begin writing poetry and change their lives. When people find their other halves and have children thanks to the dolmens. You understand — thanks to this field.
And of course, there are very many questions. Tell me, how would you like to proceed? We have about ten minutes left in this session, but we can end and then come back to answer more questions. Would that work for you, or would you prefer to keep it to this hour?
V. Megre: I can keep talking — we can reconnect again.
As for the dolmens — you did the right thing. I wrote about dolmens in the book. When I first heard about dolmens from Anastasia and traveled to Gelendzhik to see one, it was on a farmer’s property. The farmer had made a path to it and maintained it, but nobody ever visited. They were all falling apart. But when the book came out, pilgrimages began. And indeed, many people started writing poetry — and not only poetry — something was happening to them there. Though I want to say right away, they took measurements and found that many dolmens have slightly elevated radiation levels. But then they said this is an unusual phenomenon — a small increase in radiation that doesn’t have a negative effect. On the contrary, it indicates that something unusual is present. And what exactly is unusual — I think you, Inga, will understand that on your own.
In general, I’m pleased. I’d like to read your books — where can I read them?
Inga: I’ll find a way to get them to you. My latest book is called Simply Love. In the name of love — all my books are about God, about the soul being eternal, about the fact that we are not born and we do not die. I study Vedic culture; I try to help people in every way I can to find God, to find their soul in this world.
What Does God Want from Humanity?
V. Megre: You know, an idea just came to me. I wrote a little about it in the new edition of the first book, Anastasia. We have talented, gifted programmers who create various programs — Yandex, Facebook. I want to appeal to them, to the leading programmers and companies: let’s try to determine, with the help of computers — what did God want from human beings? Use a computer to work out what program God envisioned for humanity, for human life.
I recall these words, and for me, the phrase I’m about to say feels like God’s most essential statement.
When the essences of the universe began asking Him: “What is it you so ardently desire?” they all asked.
And He says: “Co-creation together, and the joy of everyone in contemplating it.”
If someone can identify a different purpose for humanity, I’d like to hear it. Because truly, any creator, any father, any parent, would want co-creation with their children — or for their children to be the continuators of their creation. This is very important to grasp, not merely hear the phrase but truly understand it.
And when we ask — what is co-creation with God? If we say God created everything — the Earth, every leaf, every blade of grass, every little bug — then all of it is God’s thoughts. And when we interact with these things, we interact with God’s thoughts and create together with God. And the Kin’s Domain that a person builds — they are creating it together with God. That person matters to the universe. And how does God watch over every person? “I gave you everything, and what is yet conceived I give you too.” And when a person creates, they feel this.
Inga: Yes, and it comes back to them as joy.
People are thanking you beyond measure. They’re so happy that we’ve met, that we’re talking. I’m ready to ask you questions — there are so many. People are asking me to come back to the coronavirus question — how long will this last, how should we behave in this situation?
V. Megre: You know, the coronavirus is a living, thinking substance. And it didn’t appear by accident. How many calls have there been on Earth: let’s make the water clean, let’s make the air clean. But humanity just kept going along the same path. And suddenly, this tiny, invisible microbe appears and says: “How about you sit at home for a while and think? Maybe you’re doing something wrong.”
And that’s the situation we got. I don’t know how it was for you — probably the same as everywhere. In Moscow, for instance, during the peak of the coronavirus, people couldn’t leave their homes. Was it the same for you?
Inga: Yes, lockdown. We sat at home, didn’t go out.
V. Megre: You could walk a dog no farther than a hundred meters. And people started to understand: what is an apartment, really, and how does it differ from a cell — a prison cell? Slightly larger, someone’s furniture is a bit nicer, someone else’s is worse — but that’s not the point. People realized it’s not a great way to live, in an apartment. It’s a confined space, and you’re not really living in the world — you’re living in that space. And it turned out that the people who had been creating Kin’s Domains — I mentioned there are about four hundred settlements in Russia, not individual Kin’s Domains, but settlements made up of Kin’s Domains — they ended up in a supremely advantageous position. The coronavirus isn’t frightening to them.
Many of them may have caught the coronavirus, because they don’t stay in their Kin’s Domain all the time — some continue working elsewhere, they interact with people, they travel into the city and come back. Leaving the Kin’s Domain, they could well have become infected somewhere. But coming back to the Kin’s Domain, the first thing they encounter is their space — it’s right there, and they’re in it. And these positive emotions are capable of defeating any illness. Doctors know this in every country, which is why a doctor tries to encourage a gravely ill patient — to instill those emotions.
But you, Inga, understand this better than anyone — when you come home. As if any microbe could get through the hedge you planted! Through a mask they can get through, through other things they can get through — but through your thujas, they won’t get through. By the way, your thujas are a little tall — and they’re going to keep growing.
Inga: We haven’t trimmed them.
V. Megre: I have one wall of thujas too, but mine are shorter than yours.
Inga: We let them grow naturally.
V. Megre: Different varieties of thujas stop growing at different heights. In your space, the coronavirus will turn into something positive for you. These people living in Kin’s Domains — they either don’t get sick or they’ve already recovered and developed immunity. And even those who are older — I know several women in the Vladimir region who are in their seventies, pushing eighty, and they’re doing just fine. They work, they do things in their space. People haven’t shut themselves away in their Kin’s Domains.
The settlement where I am has about three hundred Kin’s Domains, across several fields. The government hasn’t started helping yet — it will soon — and people built the roads and power lines themselves, at their own expense. Naturally, there are no shops, no doctors. But in this incredible way, the entire infrastructure appeared. Three doctors settled there: a surgeon from a military hospital who started building his Kin’s Domain in this settlement, a general practitioner, and a pediatrician.
Inga: Exactly what you need.
V. Megre: There’s no clinic. But they’re neighbors. If a neighbor says, “I’m not feeling well,” or a child is sick, of course a neighbor will help — and these doctors do help. Naturally, if you compare it to a village, three doctors appeared here — not every village can boast of that. On top of that — there’s even a film about this — a beauty salon appeared. A professional cosmetologist settled there. While their main house was being built, she had a small cottage built nearby and outfitted it with the latest equipment — a state-of-the-art beauty studio. I keep meaning to go myself. Women from the settlement visit her studio.
And about the coronavirus. The coronavirus is not the last affliction — if you can even call it that — to visit our planet. There’s a second wave, a third wave, something new from India, from somewhere else. For people building Kin’s Domains, this is nothing to fear. Not fearsome because they’re surrounded by their ancestral space. Not fearsome because they have positive emotions. Not fearsome because those who’ve lived there a long time are already physically healthier, more resilient — their immunity is completely different. Not everyone, because people vary, and negative emotions can settle in anyone.
But many of these people have become more balanced — and this is already observable. The most important thing God did was balance all the energies of the universe within Himself. And if a person can balance these energies — I mean the energy of fear, the energy of anger, the energy of love, the energy of wonder… The energy of fear might seem like a bad thing, but in the right amount it has a very positive effect — it protects you. A simple example: a fearless person walks along, afraid of nothing — the traffic light is red, but he walks into the road, puts himself in danger, a car could hit him. But for another person, the energy of fear says: “Don’t go — wait for the green light.”
I’m convinced the coronavirus came to bring humanity to its senses. I think people in many countries will pay attention to this. Something strange is happening: we keep thinking about the vaccine — all the scientists are working on a vaccine. And hardly anyone is saying: friends, isn’t it the way of life that needs to change? It must change.
So there’s nothing terrible about the coronavirus arriving. It arrived as our helper.
Inga: The coronavirus — I agree with you. It doesn’t bother me; let it be. But why are people being forced to get vaccinated? People are also asking — why the compulsion, will Russia be spared from mass vaccination? I can ask the same for Europe. I was listening to one interesting woman with five honors degrees, and she says: “Are we, the healthy ones, causing harm? No. Can you, the vaccinated, cause harm? Yes, you can. Then why should we, the healthy ones, have to get the shot?”
The question is: why the vaccination push, why the coercion?
V. Megre: For now, people don’t see another way. Many have come to believe that the only cure for this affliction — the coronavirus — is vaccination. I believe it’s not just about vaccination — the main thing is that we need to change our way of life, and no amount of vaccines will help. At this point — maybe, I don’t know, maybe some people need the vaccine. I don’t, for example.
Inga: I don’t either.
V. Megre: Someone might need it. And for that someone, you could even inject distilled water and say: “You’ve been vaccinated.” They’ll believe it and get sick less — because an emotion appeared, less fear. But I am absolutely convinced that people who live in Kin’s Domains will not get sick. And that is the future.
Twenty years have passed, but no more coherent idea that people would actually follow has emerged, and none is on the horizon. Don’t be afraid of the coronavirus.
Family, Anastasia, and the Kin’s Domain Project
Inga: Thank you so much. There are so many questions. Do you see your children? Do you meet with Vladimir, with Anastasia?
V. Megre: My children?
Inga: Yes. People are asking about Vladimir, about Anastasia [Megre’s children, named after the book’s protagonist].
V. Megre: You know, I do meet with them, but I understand the danger that threatens my son, my daughter, and Anastasia when I meet with them on the physical plane. It’s written in the books that there were attempts to take Anastasia out of the taiga. And it’s clear that people like Anastasia possess certain abilities that many find very interesting. Imagine how Anastasia can influence society — she is influencing society. And for many people in power, such individuals are very, very dangerous.
Anastasia was very much against creating a standard template for a Kin’s Domain project. She says: “Each person must design this domain with their own thought, create their own project.” She places tremendous importance on the project. I also took some land — it happened that I had to take land too. I already had one plot, from which I’m speaking to you now. And my son — when I was in the taiga and met with him, he was no longer small, he understood everything — I said to him: “You understand, Vladimir, the project isn’t coming together. I don’t know where to start, and I don’t have the time. It’s not simple — you have to think everything through.” And he went ahead and helped me start the project. He said: “I’ll make you a beginning for the project, then.” And he did. Where did he get this knowledge?
People are now studying what he suggested, and they say he offered the only correct solution for that particular piece of land. What happened was that people didn’t have money to buy fertile land, so they bought abandoned land. And near Vladimir [the city] it was the same — swampy, infertile. It’s even listed in the documents as low-fertility soil. My car got stuck there — it was still an empty lot back then — and I thought: “Wouldn’t it be nice if there were a Kin’s Domain Settlement here.” Then about five years later I arrive at the same place, and there it is — a Kin’s Domain Settlement. There’s already a circular road, marked-out plots, and some already have houses on them.
I’m driving along, and the settlement’s founders are telling me — this is so-and-so’s plot, this is that person’s plot. And I pull up to one plot — and there’s nothing there, just weeds growing.
I say: “Oh, what a shame — such a neglected hectare.”
And they say: “That hectare is yours, Vladimir Nikolaevich.”
I say: “Mine?!”
They had pooled their money and bought it — it wasn’t expensive then, thirty thousand rubles [roughly a thousand US dollars at the time]. They said: “This is Megre’s plot.”
So I got out and walked across this weed-covered hectare, and I felt such pity for it, like a child I’d abandoned to an orphanage. And I thought: “I need to do something here.” I started thinking about what to do. But the soil was infertile — nothing but weeds, nothing growing — and when I next met with my son Vladimir, I talked to him about it. And he sculpted a model of my plot on the ground — just clay, shaped into little mounds, a miniature model. And this model was surrounded by an earthen berm.
I say: “What’s the berm for? You should plant a living hedge.”
He says: “Sure, you could plant a hedge, but this is a start.”
So I went ahead and built this earthen berm, about a meter and a half high and maybe two meters wide. And how did I build it? I had to push the soil along with its weeds onto this berm running along the perimeter. And then what happened? The weeds began to decompose and turn into compost. Because the earth was raised, the sun warms it from the sides and the top. Long story short — everything grows twice as fast on that berm. This year: faster grass, tomatoes, cucumbers.
I planted things, didn’t tend them at all, didn’t even water — just mulched. And everything grew. Last year, a huge amount of pumpkins grew there. We ate them all winter — I kept giving them away. Basically, the plot came to life.
Then the local residents say to me — their soil is just as poor — they’re cursing: “Why did you keep this a secret? We’ve already built — how do we move things around now?” But those who could, they also started making berms.
Then he also said that you should build the house so that when you step out onto the porch and look left and right, you can take in your entire plot with a single glance. And that turned out to be right, too — because your gaze warms the land, and it gives you warmth back. And there are no hidden backyards. Building the house in the middle so you have to drive up to it — he considers that a mistake too. Little details like these he pointed out.
For example, he talks about the boundary strip. Anastasia said the boundary between plots should be no less than three meters. And I made a road along the boundary around the plot. So now I can drive to any spot on the plot without going over the berm. There are openings in the berm, and I can drive through. This road also serves as a firebreak, and it’s convenient for reaching any point. These are the kinds of details he shared. And he designed my gate. There’s a film showing this gate.
What is a home? Your entire plot is your home — not just the building with a roof where you sleep. So I built a gate with little windows. Did you see it, Inga?
Inga: No, I haven’t seen it.
V. Megre: I drive up to my plot, press a button, and this gate — with windows and little curtains — starts opening up, as if welcoming me in. And I drive onto the first meters of my hectare, and it feels as though I’m driving into my home — or walking into it. Those are the little details.
Now, about Anastasia.
About Anastasia, about the children — but especially about Anastasia. From the moment I wrote the first book, a kind of period began, a time when she’s constantly, somehow, right here beside me. I’m sitting in a room right now — paintings hang on the walls, all of them painted by readers who are artists, and they’re all about Anastasia. In my study there’s a painting by Saenko, a well-known Russian artist — she painted the primordial great-mother. An artist from the Baltics painted Anastasia, and me in my youth. These are what hang here. And a portrait of the great-mother in the small study — my favorite workspace. It’s a two-room apartment; that’s where my study is. This is the big house where I am now. This is the Anastasia Foundation, where poems, songs, paintings, and films have been collected.
It’s impossible to betray Anastasia, because — well, consider it as a woman. No matter what country I visit, there’s always an Anastasia there. I don’t just travel around randomly — I meet with Anastasia’s followers. If I were to do something unseemly, they’d say: “What a terrible person — how could you behave that way?” So I have to behave. But I don’t want to betray her anyway. I consider her that kind of woman. You can journey like Odysseus and know that she’s waiting for you, that she’s thinking about you, that she’s helping you. And I feel it — I feel that she’s helping.
We were talking about the coronavirus, so I want to say this. You know, I came to deeply understand the power of positive emotions. The books have certain chapters — good, joyful chapters — and readers experience them with joy. When I write, I feel that joy too. But when I write some heavy, difficult chapter, I start to get physically ill, and then I set it aside. I think of something good, write something uplifting, and only then, in two or three attempts, can I get through that difficult chapter.
And then there’s the Kin’s Domain.
I saw you with your hedge, rejoicing over little branches. People might think: “Why is she so excited about that branch? What’s she so happy about with that flower?” But I want to say to those people: “Because for her, that flower is the most beautiful flower in the world — like a child.” Which child is the most beautiful, the smartest, the best? Your own child — the one who is yours. They’ll always be the most beautiful, even if something isn’t quite right. And it’s the same with a Kin’s Domain — all those flowers, all that grass. That’s why I understand you so well — their light shines through you. That’s my answer to that.
The Soul Is Eternal
Inga: Vladimir Nikolaevich, you know, everything you say resonates so deeply with me. The truth is, people are afraid. When we say the soul is eternal, it means we’ll never die — you said that too, that I won’t die. I know I won’t die, because the soul is eternal; it was never born and will never die. If we do die, we’ll simply incarnate again. The other thing is: it’s important to always be ready. Then again, you’ll never truly be ready for your last day. Though — take Pyotr Mamonov [a beloved Russian actor and musician who died in July 2021]; he passed on recently, but he lives on, he’s still with us through The Island [his famous 2006 film], through his messages, through the wisdom he brought to people. And today, it seems to me, people watch and listen to him even more than during his lifetime.
Anastasia will always remain with people. You speak about home. Back in ’99, when I picked up that book and read it, I understood that your Motherland is the place where you were conceived, where you were understood, where you grew up, where they brought you home from the hospital, and where you always want to return. And for me, home is both inside and beyond the walls — you step out, look around, walk through everything, take joy in it all, greet everything, let your gaze take it all in.
On September 6, I’m launching a course called “Home, Money, Spirit.” I’ve been in business a long time, just like you — you also started out as a businessman. I was in network marketing too, and I’ve stayed in it for twenty-five years. But alongside that, I follow a spiritual path — through Anastasia, through the Vedas, through teachers. It all accumulates and you want to share it, because sharing brings joy.
How do you know that God is pleased with us? When there’s joy in your heart. When you want to live. When you wake up with a smile and go to sleep with a smile. When you feel gratitude.
For a long time I used Anastasia’s recommendation for healing. I taught my daughter. My daughter is eighteen now, and my oldest is thirty-two; my four children are thirty-two, twenty, and eighteen [sic]. I taught them that if something is difficult or something hurts, send a ray of light right to that place and watch as everything bad dissolves. And instead, in that spot where it hurt or felt wrong or uncomfortable, watch as everything brightens, becomes transparent, as everything gets better — and the whole universe helps in those moments.
I’m doing courses now. Why was I sitting here smiling? Because listening to you, I was thinking: “Oh my God, you’re saying what I’m about to say in my course.” Home isn’t just the interior, not just an apartment — home extends beyond. If you have potted flowers by your front door, if there’s — hopefully not — a cobweb by your steps or on your balcony… Are there flowers on the balcony? Everything should bring joy, everything should inspire.
If there is inspiration, joy, gratitude, and happiness, then Anastasia is pleased, God is rejoicing, and we are co-creators. That’s a partial answer to your question — what does God expect from us? In my feeling, He wants the same thing we want when we have children. What do we want from them? For them to be happy, for them to be joyful, to take joy in life, in every new day. And when we see them joyful, we’re happy too, and we think: life turned out well.
And I’m truly grateful to you. I think I’m conveying this gratitude on behalf of everyone. I don’t know how to fully deliver this human gratitude to you. I simply want to say: people read you, they listen to you, they’re grateful to you, they need you, and they want to listen and hear you. People are ready — there are so many bright souls.
And I’ll send you Galina’s invitation privately — she’s inviting you to a retreat this year, next year, always. So thank you for everything you transmit and for the tender soul you have.
V. Megre: You said it very well — what do we want from our children? For them to be joyful, for them to be well. That’s exactly — and only — what God wanted and wants from human beings: for them to be strong, happy, joyful, and healthy. That’s natural. And the greatest pain for God is when His children, His sons and daughters, crawl on their knees saying: “I am your slave. Give me, O Lord. I am your slave, give me, O Lord.” For any parent, that is the deepest pain — when your children, who received everything from their parent, believe they are nothing and can do nothing.
Planting the Ancestral Tree
I was in business, and to some degree the businessman in me remains. The Foundation grew Siberian cedars and gave away saplings. Like an entrepreneur, I told them this was wrong — that they were giving them away. The cedars ended up not always reaching the right hands — hands that were invested in growing them, in caring for them. So they started selling the cedars. They made a special box — I watched the effect when they sell them. When a person buys one, they’ve spent money, they’ve made a commitment — they’ll definitely take care of it. They made a beautiful gift box, a presentation edition that can be given as a wedding gift, a birthday gift. When a man proposes to the woman he loves, he takes this little cedar in its box and says: “You know, I’d like to plant an ancestral tree with you.” Can you imagine how powerfully that affects a woman? “I’d like to plant an ancestral tree with you.” Let me show you this box. Can you see it?
Inga: Yes, I can see it. It’s very beautiful.
V. Megre: It says “Ancestral Tree” on it. This is a real Siberian cedar — a cedar sapling.
Inga: Now I want to ask — how could I get a Siberian sapling?
V. Megre: Siberian cedars can grow in your area too.
Inga: I want to plant one in Lithuania. Now I’ll be dreaming about it.
V. Megre: The connection is breaking up.
Inga: The internet’s freezing a bit, Vladimir Nikolaevich. I was saying I’ll be dreaming of planting a Siberian cedar here in Lithuania.
V. Megre: Well, it’s a cedar — you can’t transport a sapling across the border.
Inga: Maybe some miracle will happen. Thank you so much. I do believe miracles will happen. And if it’s God’s will for the Siberian cedar to take root in Lithuania, it will definitely happen — without a doubt.
V. Megre: It will happen. It will. It’s already happening.
How Would You Explain God to a Child?
Inga: Vladimir Nikolaevich, tell me — someone asked this, and it touched me too — how would you explain to a child who God is?
V. Megre: I know how to explain to a child who God is. I think a small child born in a Kin’s Domain will explain to its parents what God is.
In one of the books, there’s a wedding ceremony. If you compare this ceremony to the thousands of rites that different peoples have had, it surpasses them all in its psychology and philosophy. You know those fairy tales where someone waves a wand and a castle appears, a beautiful garden, a magic tablecloth that produces food? Through this ceremony, all of that actually happens for the young couple — not in minutes, perhaps, but in a few hours. Those who’ve read it will remember who’s present at this wedding ceremony. How a garden appears for the newlyweds in a matter of minutes.
Can you imagine? A garden planted by the hands of your friends. You can understand this a little, Inga. And this happened during the wedding ceremony. Who planted it? Parents, mother, father, grandfather, grandmother, close friends. And when a person walks into this garden, planted by parents, grandparents, and close friends — that is the energy. That is what Shambhala really is. A person creates their own Shambhala. And then there’s the birth of the first child. When she gives birth, the parents are present, but they’re not in the room where the woman delivers. And this child, born there — that child is capable of explaining to its parents what God is.
There are many things I can describe in my own words. I feel them, but I can’t fully express them. I can’t fully express them in the language we have, even though Anastasia speaks about this — but the words aren’t enough. What is the energy of love? It’s such a magnificent energy, such a colossal thing — there are energetic explosions across the universe from true love. There are no words that can describe it.
Let’s have more questions.
A New Story of the Vedruss
Inga: What about your daughter — do you see her? People are also asking about Anastasia’s grandfather. What else does Anastasia want to say to people? Are you planning to write another book?
V. Megre: Yes, I want to write a book specifically about this love. And I want to write a book about the Vedruss settlements that existed here long before the Revolution — back in the time of Prince Svyatoslav [Svyatoslav I of Kyiv, 10th century]. Prince Svyatoslav was a Russian prince who didn’t allow a single war on the territory of ancient Rus’. Even as a young man, he was remarkably wise. He was a spirited youth who knew a great deal — a little wild, even. When he met a young man from one of these settlements, they were riding along a river and saw women bathing — local women swimming in the river. And he says: “Let’s go watch. Let’s spy on them.” The young man replies: “No, that’s not right.” And Svyatoslav: “Fine, I’ll go alone.” So he went and started spying. The women noticed him watching, ran out of the water shrieking and laughing, and fled. But one woman — a very young woman — walked out of the water naked and headed straight toward him. Her clothing was lying near where he was standing, just a bit further on. She walked toward him. He froze, stunned. She kept walking, closer and closer. A slender figure. And what made these Vedruss women beautiful — it wasn’t just their appearance; they had a colossal energy. She kept walking, drew even with him, and passed right by — as if he didn’t exist. And he was thunderstruck — he felt as though he didn’t exist. She walked over, picked up her clothes, and kept going.
But he fell so deeply in love with her that he couldn’t find peace. He and his friend went to a wise man — a Vedruss elder whose age nobody even knew.
He says: “You know so much. How can I make a girl fall in love with me?”
The wise man says: “What an interesting and simple question. The first thing I can say is: you are a male, you are a man. Build her a nest.”
So he began building her a house. He had a retinue of about fifty men. He rode up to them on horseback and said: “That’s it — we’re staying here. We’re building a house.”
The local residents gave him timber prepared for construction. And the warriors set to work with such enthusiasm — building a house, chopping wood. They built the finest dwelling in the whole settlement. She didn’t pay any attention. They built a fence around it too. But it happened that the families took turns herding the livestock. Svyatoslav’s friend comes running and says: “Listen — she’s herding tomorrow, it’s her family’s turn. I’m supposed to be next, but I’ll pretend I can’t, and you’ll go in my place.” So he went. He tried his best, did everything properly. And later, when they were walking back with the herd, he asked her to come in. She’d seen he was a decent person, so she stepped inside the yard. She walked up, looked at his house, looked at the porch. Then she turned and started to leave.
He says: “Wait — you didn’t say anything. Did I build a good house? For my future family, for my future line?”
They valued lineage, the Vedruss.
She turned and said: “You built this house for yourself. Not for a family line.”
“Why?”
“How would a baby climb up these high steps? Or how would it crawl down?”
The steps were built high — it was a prince’s porch, tall and grand. And she left. He went back to the wise man, who says: “Oh! The girl has been caught.”
“How has she been caught?” they ask. “She left.”
“She left, but she left a thought about a baby by the porch!”
She had imagined a baby crawling down the steps — meaning she’d left her thought there, on that porch.
Inga: Her energy.
V. Megre: Her energy — and that was everything. Well, I’ve told this very briefly.
Inga: Very interesting.
V. Megre: Prince Svyatoslav is considered to have perished. But she — this woman — actually saved him. He didn’t truly die. She saved his soul.
I very much want to write this. You see, Inga, I keep getting drawn into these stories. They’re endlessly fascinating. In this settlement, this is happening; in that settlement, something else is happening. Then someone told me — in one of the settlements in Russia…
You ask how people will tell their children about God, how to explain God to children.
In one settlement called Kovcheg [meaning “The Ark”], three women and several men came to the Foundation — to this very house I’m speaking from. All three women turned out to be singers — they sing beautifully. These women turned out to be mothers with many children: one with four, another with six. They were all slender. They sang and so forth.
Then I ask one of them: “How did you give birth to your children?”
She says: “I gave birth at home.”
And she described how, during her children’s births, her older children were present — one was two years old, another a little older — and they were there during the delivery. And their reaction…
I say: “What reaction? How did they take it? Negatively, positively — were they scared?”
“No,” she says. “They weren’t scared. Each one wanted to help their mother somehow.”
Her husband recounts how the youngest, seeing her pushing, her face perhaps strained, went over, picked up an apple from the table, brought it to her and said: “Here, Mama — eat.” To the woman in labor.
“They have,” she says, “a very unusual relationship with a child born in their presence.”
As she was telling all this, I remembered how in many schools abroad and here too, they try to teach about intimate relations between men and women. These children, who saw all of this — they’re probably different children already. They could be the ones to teach.
You know, my granddaughter — when she was little, Ninochka — she told me so much about the stars, about different worlds in the universe. She’s grown up now, stopped talking about those things. Now she talks about everyday, practical matters. I don’t know how to explain it — I can’t explain what God is.
Inga: You don’t even realize that you—
V. Megre: I can tell adults that God is one of many essences that existed across the universes. But this was one fervent essence who decided to create a magnificent world, making it a co-creation of all the essences of the universe. That’s why Earth is the only one like it in the universe — there is no second one. And only humans have the ability, on other planets, to create worlds — perhaps like the one on Earth, perhaps even more beautiful. The potential of humanity is the potential of God — even greater than God’s. Perhaps a human being is a lost god, a lost child of God — a person, probably.
I communicate with people from many countries. And my impression is that there are actually no borders between us. These people called Anastasia’s followers — they’re somehow special. I’ve been to Germany, I’ve been to America, I’ve been to India — and the people are the same. They think the same way, they relate to Anastasia the same way. How did she do that?
I spoke recently with Indian spiritual leaders, and one of them said: “In my understanding, it is the Earth itself speaking through Anastasia.”
In America, there’s an organization called Nexus [a global community that presents annually at the UN]. I spoke with their organizers. You see, my mother died on my birthday, and I stopped celebrating my birthday — because it felt ambiguous. My mother passed on July 23rd, and my birthday is July 23rd. That was it. I just remembered my mother and that was all. And suddenly, an invitation arrives from America to speak at the UN at a Nexus event. I went. I thought — this is probably deliberate; it’s unclear whether it’s a celebration for me or not. I met these people. Then I also met an American family there; they came to Russia — they’re into raw foodism, very wealthy people.
Inga: Vladimir, dear, forgive me — we have one minute left. We’ve been going for two hours, and that’s been an enormous gift. I’m afraid the stream might cut off on its own.
V. Megre: Two hours?
Inga: Yes, we’ve been going for two hours — it’s something unreal.
V. Megre: Then let’s end the stream, and until we meet again.
Inga: Dear Vladimir Nikolaevich, I bow to the earth before you and thank you from the bottom of my heart for the time you’ve given us. I’m not saying goodbye — I’m saying thank you, and see you again.
V. Megre: Goodbye to you. Thank you — to you and to everyone who heard us.