[Gabriel Miguel]

Hi Joaquin! Thanks for joining us here 🙏🏽 I’m actually 100% Puerto Rican 🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷myself so it makes me really happy to see someone living on the island and working towards the Kin’s Domain dream here.

About land patents in PR, you’re right. Because it’s a territory/commonwealth and not one of the several states, there are no land patents. Irrevocable express trusts would be your next best bet. I’m friends with some top land patent experts and next time I talk with them I can ask about land patents and ownership in PR, as the subject interests me as well.

The real play is probably a Foreign Irrevocable Express Trust, my friends at the Freedom People are experts on that too and would know more than me. thefreedompeople.org/

I’d be happy to stay in touch and see what you discover on the subject, and support where I can.

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[Joaquin Chong]

Wow… Gabriel, I didn’t know you are from PR. That’s great! Please let me know if you are here or if you come to PR. I would love to talk to you. I have also researched Express Trust and these seem prohibited by law, but yet I guess that is if you work in the public. When PR was given to the US in the Treaty of Paris the US was obligated to preserve private property and then land was confirm by the US and its methods. I am not certain if those titles from Spain were to real owners, but I have heard that all Europe transferred land with confirmatory patents referencing the original land grant. Perhaps there is a method to do it in PR.

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[dahVeed Montané]

I love your lucid dream! So vivid.

[Gabriel Miguel]

Hi brother, this is fascinating stuff. I’m not really familiar with trust law in Puerto Rico. I’d love to learn about anything you discover regarding that.

Also, if you ever want to host a meetup in Puerto Rico, please let me know and we can help support. There has to be more readers there, it would be incredible if a community of readers were to develop on the island. It’s inevitable.

Funny enough, I actually have family in Vega Baga…small world!

[Gabriel Miguel]

I’m very good friends with Robert William and Ron Gibson from American Meeting Group. I’d be happy to ask them any questions you may have about Land Patents as applied in Puerto Rico.

[Joaquin Chong]

Thanks Garbiel, I have been studying some land patents. As of now, when PR was part of Spain, Spain gave land to for example Juan Ponce de León in usufructo, meaning for his use and with restrictions from the crown. Spaniers mantaned greater control over then land. When the US took over at the Paris Treaty, things started to change, property transfers where maintained as per ‘international law’. In short I’m not certain that documentation from the time of Spain would work. One is hard to find and In some part it might work as land was kept in private hands over the Spain/US handover. Later when the US wanted to develop Sugar Cane production they DID gave some land patents of otherwise similar to corporations. My farm was in a sugar place location. I have to research further about this as I think it might be there where the land patent can be looked for. I’ll keep you posted.

[Unknown Member]

Hi Joaquin that’s amazing you’re working towards a kin’s domain in PR. South America is incredibly beautiful. My husband is from Ecuador and I’ve been there once. The mountains, the rivers..

[Joaquin Chong]

Hi Lillian,

I was born in Ecuador, but haven’t been there in many years. Land there is more affordable, but crime, I am told, is going up. PR still pretty good.

Joaquin