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  • Posted by Unknown Member on November 19, 2024 at 3:59 pm

    Hi! Im about to finish book 3 and I’m a bit confused. We’ve been reading about the benefit of living close to nature, and raising one’s child in that environment. In fact she says it’s criminal to not prepare a space of love for an incoming baby. But she also says that it’s not about moving to live in a forest. That we need to clean up the cities, plant trees.

    Ok im confused. Like, isn’t it the best thing to do, to get a piece of land and start a kin’s domain with neighboring like minded families and make a food forest? And plant many plants and care for them with love and thus create a space of love, worthy of bringing a child into? I mean that was my plan (after several decades of saving money and learning about how to do such things)

    It could potentially make sense to stay in the city forever if I had a little piece of backyard etc where I can plant things, but like most people, I don’t. And so much regulations stop me from creating a community garden etc.

    Thoughts please

    Megan Craddock replied 3 months, 1 week ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Gabriel Guedj

    Member
    November 19, 2024 at 6:38 pm

    Hi Lillian,

    At the moment, I think many people would agree that most cities are far too hazardous for healthy human development. The reasons for this are endless. I think one thing of great importance is that our children are not born into and spend early life in a world that is essentially dead as all the scenes and soulless activity condition their minds to a new “normal”. I can tell you there is nothing more dangerous than someone who believes that any form of sickness, whether it be mental or environmental, is “normal” or acceptable as a standard of living. This thought scares me beyond all measure as we forget what true beauty and health are and instead give ourselves up to something in every way inferior to God’s original design. This process is very much connected to the phenomenon of Shifting Baseline Syndrome. I wish you the best with whatever choice you make although I just want to reiterate that I do not think it’s very plausible at this point to turn things around en masse in the cities – nowhere near enough people are on the same page to initiate something of this magnitude. Maybe one day we will create new cities conducive to well-being with animals and nature throughout. For now, though, we must protect ourselves as much as possible from the death throws of a disease-ridden era by moving towards a completely different setting where the memory of the old technocratic world is mostly absent or has been neutralized with positive, life-affirming energy. Of course, we can only do this one step at a time.

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  • Unknown Member

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    November 26, 2024 at 4:33 pm

    Ahh I absolutely love all of that, Gabriel! Thank you so much!! And sorry it took me a while to respond, I didn’t see it.

    I must agree with all that you said. And it’s a sobering and humbling reminder. I will do my very best to move to a a more natural area, even if it takes me years.

    Thanks again , I’ll be thinking of what you said.

    • Gabriel Guedj

      Member
      November 27, 2024 at 9:20 pm

      Thank you for the kind words – Best

  • Tina Ivčević Pušić

    Member
    December 18, 2024 at 9:09 pm

    From what I understand in the books, there’s a choice of either creating a kin’s domain in nature or ‘cleaning up’ the city. What would you love to do more? Where does your heart lead you?

    • Unknown Member

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      December 21, 2024 at 4:26 am

      That’s a great way to simplify it. Thank you Tina! How I’m looking at it now is, I’d live to go away into nature. But right now I can’t. So in the meantime I will try to do what good I can in the city. Fortunately I found a cause I want to pursue in the city for now.

  • Unknown Member

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    February 27, 2025 at 5:58 pm

    I think the warning is about the danger that we will bring the harmful things and habits to the remaining natural spaces on earth and pollute those too. I imagine we need to go through some kind of transformation first, so that we free ourselves from that mindframe before we can interact healthily in the countryside. Maybe intermediate steps, such as a village or town might be necessary?
    But it does leave some questions, for example: what about those of us who grew up in the countryside. Do we get to stay (or return) t/here?

    I also see a big difference between living in the countryside of a highly developed country where the countryside is already covered in houses (UK and Ireland for example), vs. going to live in the actual forest in Siberia or Canada and cutting it down ruthlessly so that you can build yourself your cabin and whatnot.

  • Megan Craddock

    Member
    March 8, 2025 at 6:36 am

    Type three fun, also known as fun that is full of lessons for the soul and not really all that fun at all.

    As cities collapse, empty spaces appear to fill with love. There is no wrong place to create heaven on earth. Warriors working to rehabilitate urban spaces need brave and adaptable hearts with unshakable courage in the face of feeling misunderstood and alienated by their peers.

    Pure intention calls in the right type of support network to encourage positive growth even in near total darkness.

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