:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pm
"done in collaboration with the government and with SwissCom". Then at 57:19 she said about the government and SwissCom, "They brought us. They allowed us to do the work."
Being hired by someone to do a specific job is a far cry from being “funded by” as you said in your first statement. Should he have refused an offer to work for the well being of those people, animals and nature out of scruples? I’m disappointed by this apparent deliberate misuse of words by you.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmThat inner work requires the 'pressure' from unwanted outer experiences in order to expand conscious awareness of my inner thought patterns causing the outer effects in my experiences.
Yes, but you don’t place yourself in a cesspool to begin with. You create the best you can create and then the residual is what continues to refine.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pm
It's not the One science that the priest's broke into many in order to disconnect the people from their nature and innate power (their own thought).
How do you know that it’s not? I attended an online Conference recently with the Vesica Instiute who’s goal is to create a “Universal Spiritual Science.”
https://vesica.org/articles/spiritual-science/ There were scientists and doctors from fiields such as Cymatics (the study of the effect of sound on matter), the Sacred Geometry of Energy Production at the Cellular Level (
https://vesica.org/amazing-images-from- ... e-preview/), and several other doctors and scientists working with subtle energies, including Dr. Karim as the keynote speaker. The Science that I am seeing emerge explains why all of the natural healing and balancing modalities known to man work… ie, martial arts, Ayurdevic, Chinese Traditional Medicine, aromatherapy, sound therapy, color therapy, acupuncture, Jin Shin Jyutsu, Feng Shui, etc. It is cohesive and universal and simply game changing on so many levels. It’s time humanity learns the truth!
The Science is now being revealed. Rudolph Steiner was revealing it last century, but was killed for it, and then had his reputation dragged through the mud so that few paid attention. Now it’s coming out from so many sources that it can’t be stopped. We have the ability to mitigate the horrible effects of the current technology that is being used against humanity and it would be inhumane not to use it. It’s already being done, whether people are aware or not, things are being changed… if they were not we’d be soon extinct.
(Also, I don’t know if you are aware that there are 2 sets of Egyptian ruins, with the older, deeper set being thought to be 35,000 years old.)
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pm
Doreya said that the technology and testing is all about the symptoms
It’s all about the “effect on man”… this is the unit of measure that is applied in Biogeometry. What is good for the human being is good for all of life.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pm and that in one test they had 90% success in mitigating the symptoms of the use of the drug 'interferon' (the #1 prescription drug at that time). Why "mitigate" a drug's effects for people who are still taking it?
It’s meeting people where they’re at. When someone is on a drug that they believe they need in order to save their life, it can be extremely helpful to remove the harmful symptoms of that drug first, so the person can start to think clearly and make better choices.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmWhy address the environmental issues while the people are still living the lifestyle that is causing the problems in the environment (still taking the pills)?
When people are immersed in toxicity and are full of parasites, their emotions and thoughts are not coming from a healthy place. Clearing the air is a great place to start, IMO. I get that you feel that people need to feel the compression until the point where they “get it”.. maybe we’re finally there, enough people “get it” and it’s time to get on with our new future. Now we have a mess to clean up, and here we have tools to make that a joy rather than a burden.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmDoreya said "electric cars are very good for the environment...but not for the body of the driver and passengers".
You have read way more into this statement than exists… she is just acknowledging that perhaps some people feel this is a benefit, but her main point is that they are horrible for the human body. Again, once corrections are made, people will be able to feel when something is off, they will start to intuitively know when they have gone against Nature.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmAccording to the interview "energy is the ability to produce effects." It is also true that "thought energy produces effects". But biogeometry doesn't appear to be studying the effects of thought, "the unparalleled force in all of space". They are mitigating the effects of man's unmanaged thought allowing people to depend on the devices rather than expand conscious awareness of their thought.
No, just clearing the air… few people are thinking clearly right now. We definitely become aware of the power of our thought in the further study of Biogeometry. We can see and actually measure its effects, and find what practices help improve our abilities. No longer do we have to rely on gurus or experts to tell us what we need to do, we can measure and decide for ourselves if it is worth our efforts.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmYou've said that biogeometry is a good transition but how can that be when those who use the biogeometry technology and principles have submitted their own unparalleled force, which is thought, to the lesser technology of the biogeometry science and they remain unaware of the role of their own thought in the experience?
Completely untrue… you are only looking at the lowest level of Biogeometry, the person who buys a few of the tools and uses them. The Science of Biogeometry puts the human being at the Center of Everything.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmDoreya said they have 90% success in eliminating symptoms. That remaining 10% is critically important. It means there are factors at work that haven't been considered.
There always are… people have choices about whether to get well, some will always choose, on some level, to stay ill.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmMr. Karim told a medical group to "consider the environment as a form of preventive medicine". This is what he is doing, and he's missing the key element as is the medical science. That key element is man's thought.
The environment is critical to the development of man’s thought. There is so much going on in our subconscious programming and our disturbed biology that we can’t even begin to think clearly. To create a place of calm and peace, as in the power centers of the planet, is essential for humanity to start to think clearly.
People are seriously messed up! They are so far gone in every realm due the incredibly toxic environment. Cleaning that environment up so that people can start to feel and think again seems to be a very compassionate solution. Expecting them to continue to be compressed by their experience until they pop is harsh, especially since they haven’t consciously chosen the toxic experience that they are living in.
I’ve seen what it’s like to try and give healthy food to someone used to a very toxic diet… it’s extremely uncomfortable, they may even choose to not eat. It’s very harsh to expect someone to leap from something so intensely destructive to something so strongly healing. I’ve also seen it with animals. You have to go slowly… you have to start to give them a little bit at a time, or their system will be overwhelmed, they may even die!
Biogeometry can be used very subtly. You can take someone’s cigarettes and put them on an emitter every day, (simply a 135 degree angle, anyone can make it), and in time the person no longer wants the cigarettes. No harsh withdrawal, it’s just over, the hold is no longer there.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmShe sees the improvement of thought as the result of correct use of "this technology", which is how she described the mental/emotional improvements of the church people in the second Switzerland study.
Exactly… who can think clearly when they are bombarded by electrosmog and stress of every kind?
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmI believe people may be unconsciously using their thought force to empower the biogeometry devices because they don't know the potential in the direct management of their thought power. And I don't see that as a particularly good thing. Like all the separated sciences, biogeometry practices may tend to disconnect people from their true nature and innate power and teach them to project their thought power to a new and improved science and technology. It changes the effects of man's thought without man's conscious involvement with his thought and its conscious expansion. That still leaves people powerless to 'directly manage' their thought for expanding love, joy and harmony in their lives and relationships. Medications do the same thing. How is this a good transition to a lifestyle built from greater conscious awareness?
Again, I feel your image of the “Biogeometry devices” is mistaken. In the Science of Biogeometry, shapes, angles and numbers can be used to enhance the quality of the energy in an object, being or space. It is simply the way Nature works, and using that to create an amazingly healthy space. It’s not complicated or technological, and doesn’t require “devices” other than what is found in nature. Our hand makes the same shape as the “L’s” that are sold on Biogeometry websites. By truly understanding the way nature works, how matter is formed, how energy moves about us and enhances or detracts from life, we can arrange our spaces and creations to the greatest benefit of all.
I honestly can’t see the slightest bit of “bad” in any of this, except for your concern that mankind won’t fully wake up and will trade one technology for another. That can only happen if man is ruled and controlled by other people as they are now. Then I could see a combination of “good feeling” technology along with “control tech,” some sort of AI, and that would be very bad. The story about the other civilization where the man lives in a pod that feeds him exactly what he needs and then puts him to sleep at the time it determines is a good illustration of “what could go wrong.”
Biogeometry is the opposite of that scenario, IMO, because the man will easily be able to check himself and then make a decision about what he wants to eat, and can even decide whether or not he wants to check himself before eating. This is where we get our power to say “no” to all control structures over our personal body… the gov’t, the doctors, the “experts,” and even specialized computers can no longer tell us what we need because we are all equally capable of seeing that for ourselves and then making the conscious decision of whether or not we want it.
Perhaps the concern about this technology being in use in ancient Egypt, where there were already power structures and initiation procedures and such, is part of your mistrust of it. It is true that at least in part of the Egyptian history it is clear that the “sacred knowledge” was only allowed for a few, it wasn’t common knowledge.
This is where I feel this moment in history is unique onto itself… for the first time in any known history, Truth will be known to all and there is no way that we can be lorded over once that is realized across the board. No more princes and priests, secret societies, etc. We will finally be able to live happily in small communities, powerful enough to provide for ourselves, heal ourselves and defend ourselves from outside attacks, as we will all have the power and knowledge of deflection… if you try to send something negative to me, it will bounce off and hit you, probably not a good idea to send a bomb or a bullet or an evil eye.
:Joyce-M: wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:32 pmMy last point is about Doreya's discussion of Sacred power spots and how the biogeometry methods are measuring and recreating that healing energy and "super-imposing" it in people's homes. As I understand Anastasia's messages about creating a Space of Love on ones plot of land, and as I have experienced the effect of creating and living in an ever-expanding Space of Love, every kins domain that is made into a Space of Love accomplishes the same thing except not superimposed. It's the same as creating a sacred power spot that always and effortlessly emanates from every particle of one's own homeland.
I’m sure you’ve heard of structured water… there are many ways to create it, it can be made by passing water over a vortex… this can be done naturally through a stream, or it can be done by using a “device” which you place over a bottle and pass the water through. Either way, you get “structured water” which is more healthy for you. Obviously, the stream water would be ideal, no need for a “device” that had to be manufactured, but not everyone can access the stream water. So, using the device is one way to get healthier water, which will help people to rehydrate and feel better and be able to take action to maybe get out into nature and get some stream water (though that’s not necessarily a healthy thing to do in most parts of the world right now). Water can also be structured through prayer, or through beautiful music, certain words (which are our expression of our thought forms), lightening, or exposure to different colored lights, etc…. some people may insist that only prayer (thought) should be used, and that’s what I feel like you’re doing here. Healthy water is important for everyone and people are much less likely to start thinking clear thoughts while they’re drinking unhealthy water. Let’s not be scrupulous about the little bit of “technology” that might be used in this case.
[With Biogeometry, the #11, as in 11 of something, like 11 stones, or 11 staples in a piece of tape is one way of structuring water, which can be measured as the level of “BG3” in the water. You can also structure water or any other beverage by building in BG3 into the container… a certain bottle shape (Guinness bottles are awesome!), using colors placed at certain positions (the use of angles), applying number combinations, etc.…. more tools, same goal… I can pray every day over all of our water, or put the tool to work. When I pray, or direct my thought, the effect only lasts a moment, but the tool holds the effect for me when I’m not thinking about it.]
When Doreya says “superimpose” she is just trying to describe how a place that wasn’t a natural power spot can become one. It isn’t artificial, it is a Power Spot. Each one is going to be unique, but it will provide a healing, calming environment where people can think and act out of their best capacity. It is no more super-imposed than your Space of Love, in that it wasn’t one by Nature alone, but rather created by your action on the Space.
As to how all of this applies to community, here is finally the One Science which can be studied and applied and the results measured as to their effect on Man. Communities can’t have cohesiveness without agreeing on what is true and what is good. There is also a history of failed or struggling communities due to the harshness of trying to live with less technology in today’s world with poorer health, knowledge and skills and the poor health of soils, flora and fauna. There are communities in Russia running power lines now because of this. Applying biodynamics and Biogeometry this summer made a big difference in just one season for us in more milk and larger and healthier vegetables, and I expect next year to be even better. This is our Space of Love which we’ve been developing for 15 years… many people have told us that they notice a special energy here. But it has been very laborious. For those who haven’t been raised this way, the workload would be overwhelming. I believe in a life of abundance, including time to do all the things we love to do, including lounging, hanging out, and being entirely “unproductive” if we feel like it. The homestead shouldn’t be a place of burden, where grown children run from when they can finally get away from the chores, the weeding, etc., and never look back, as have those of past generations. If some simple knowledge of ways of arranging things can ramp up the growth of the plants, prevent diseases, give us more energy, quickly clear the toxic effects of the past centuries, and those that are getting exponentially bombarded at us in this moment, and generally make all our work more productive so we have more time for true leisure, then I’m all in! Besides, the cat’s out of the bag, there’s no way I can’t “do Biogeometry” now, it is a beautiful part of my life bringing me to a greater awareness and appreciation of everything around me.
With Love,
Meg