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Amen, sister, that’s what I’m doing!!(Black cover) Anastasia says, "To attain the required understanding, Man needs to refrain from destroying His (God's) programme and to study for all he's worth and ascertain the purpose of everything on the earth.".
BG teaches to put our thought or our focus on the Center. It certainly acknowledges that our attention is creating our reality. And BG teaches that we are to come into harmony with that Center for our highest good.The Science of biogeometry puts the human being at the Center of Everything. I have not seen that written in any of the places I've looked, any of the videos or interviews, or the articles I've read about biogeometry. Besides, what does that statement even mean? Placing the human being at the center of everything does not mean "placing human thought at the source of everything Man experiences".
Yes, thought is the cause of all things. I don’t recall that ever being contradicted in anything I learned in BG.is thought the unparalleled force in all of space, or is that the principles of Biogeometry? Where should I look to read or hear the Karim family members saying that thought is the greater active force in the biogeometry principles, not the effect? Thought is definitely the active force in the One science (providing the 'purpose' from and for which it functions).
Same here."Expecting them (people) to continue to be compressed by their experience until they pop is harsh". It wasn't harsh for me, nor is it still. It was and is exactly as it needed to be and provided me with the exact motivation I needed. I wouldn't change a thing about the expansion of my thought awareness.
Yep, true...."except for your concern that mankind won’t fully wake up and will trade one technology for another. That can only happen if man is ruled and controlled by other people as they are now." Again, I think you have the cart before the horse. It's not the rulers that limit man's thought. It's man's thought that allowed and perhaps even required the controlling rulers (priests). That's why Anastasia told us to find our "mistake" that allowed man to inadvertently create this experience of false "powerlessness". She didn't tell us to find the priests and stop them from limiting our thought.
Yes, awesome, and you are a great example of that. I am learning the power of my thought more and more through the practice of BG and the gifts shared by my fellow students… we continue to get together weekly and discuss a variety of topics, very grateful for that community! Perhaps I needed to be able to “measure” to see the actual effects, to be able to believe in the power of my thought..I treasure the results and the freedom of learning to master my own thought, the unparalleled force in all of space.
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There has been no deliberate misuse of words by me, Meg and I'm puzzled over why you would identify a differing perspective as "deliberate misuse of words". But be that as it may, I still do not perceive a difference in being paid to do a job and being "funded by" that income source for that job. I did not criticize the Karim group for accepting that funding. I took note of it as important information.I’m disappointed by this apparent deliberate misuse of words by you.
That's a brilliant question and one that's important to answer. I've 'felt' the nature of the One science since 1994, long before reading the RC books in 2007. But I have never experienced a need to verbally express that which I've been able to feel. Thank you for providing that push to decode those feelings into words. As I have "felt" the One science, it requires at least the following 5 points of characteristics and activity in order to be described minimally:How do you know that it’s not? I attended an online Conference recently with the Vesica Instiute who’s goal is to create a “Universal Spiritual Science.
I've never suggested that it should not be used. I've said it may be beneficial for some but its not for me. I don't think I agree that it would be inhumane not to use it but I accept that as your opinion. I don't see that respecting each man's own thought and the right to experience it's results is in any way inhumane.We have the ability to mitigate the horrible effects of the current technology that is being used against humanity and it would be inhumane not to use it.
I didn't know that but I've done a lot of research into archaeological dating and most of it has been proven to be seriously flawed. What is 'thought to be' and what 'is' are often wildly disparate. I am therefore prevented from accepting archaeological dating as a 'real' factor....there are 2 sets of Egyptian ruins, with the older, deeper set being thought to be 35,000 years old
I've not seen or experienced the cleanup as a burden. In fact, if it is experienced as a burden, the thought patterns holding "burden" as the 'reality' of one's experience haven't yet been cleaned up....here we have tools to make that a joy (the cleanup) rather than a burden.
This is true but I think you may have the cart before the horse. People aren't being prevented from thinking clearly because of pollution or electromagnetic waves or poor food. It's the other way around, people have created (allowed and supported) the life diminishing elements around them because of their chaotic thinking. Some people are regaining their deeper self awareness in the presence of these polluting factors. Correcting the pollutants is great but it won't fix the thinking nor do I believe it can make the task easier. It may make it harder. In book 8.1, pg. 223 (Black cover) Anastasia says, "To attain the required understanding, Man needs to refrain from destroying His (God's) programme and to study for all he's worth and ascertain the purpose of everything on the earth.".… few people are thinking clearly right now.
I have not seen that written in any of the places I've looked, any of the videos or interviews, or the articles I've read about biogeometry. Besides, what does that statement even mean? Placing the human being at the center of everything does not mean "placing human thought at the source of everything Man experiences". Much of your last post has been about telling me I've misunderstood or misinterpreted what I've read and heard directly from the voices and pens of the Karim family, and how I 'should' see it (how you see it?). It seems like you are suggesting that I should reject my own reasoning based on the information I've found and reviewed, but without offering information directly from the biogeometry scientists. You mentioned my "mistrust" of biogeometry and even suggested a possible reason for it. I don't believe I have a "mistrust" of this science. I believe I understand clearly that for me, using this technology would reduce my speed of thought (by supplanting it), and limit or slow the expansion of my skill of discovering and correcting my thought (by disconnecting me, at least temporarily, from the direct experience of my thought). This isn't mistrust. It's clear reasoning from the factors I've discovered in biogeometry and the factors I've discovered through direct experience of my thought. Your desire to instruct me on how I should interpret what the Karim family has said and done will not alter those factors for me. Perhaps they will influence other readers of these posts and I have no problem with that. "Each one must learn to make sense of things, to determine what is true, with his own soul". Book 4, pg. 43. Black cover.The Science of biogeometry puts the human being at the Center of Everything.
I suspect this will be the majority of users; but whether it is or not, is thought the unparalleled force in all of space, or is that the principles of Biogeometry? Where should I look to read or hear the Karim family members saying that thought is the greater active force in the biogeometry principles, not the effect? Thought is definitely the active force in the One science (providing the 'purpose' from and for which it functions)....you are only looking at the lowest level of Biogeometry, the person who buys a few of the tools and uses them.
Yes it is, but not as a restricting power (greater power) over thought, but rather as the effect of thought and therefore critical to finding and correcting the relevant thought patterns. I have not found my subconscious realms of mind to be a problem but rather I've found the subconscious extremely cooperative and supportive to expanding awareness of my thought patterns in the manner best for me. I only have to define what I want from it. In this same point you wrote, "Expecting them (people) to continue to be compressed by their experience until they pop is harsh". It wasn't harsh for me, nor is it still. It was and is exactly as it needed to be and provided me with the exact motivation I needed. I wouldn't change a thing about the expansion of my thought awareness.The environment is critical to man's thought.
Again, I think you have the cart before the horse. It's not the rulers that limit man's thought. It's man's thought that allowed and perhaps even required the controlling rulers (priests). That's why Anastasia told us to find our "mistake" that allowed man to inadvertently create this experience of false "powerlessness". She didn't tell us to find the priests and stop them from limiting our thought....except for your concern that mankind won’t fully wake up and will trade one technology for another. That can only happen if man is ruled and controlled by other people as they are now.
That's already true without biogeometry. However, biogeometry will be attractive to those who believe they are not free to say no to the authority of experts and systems....the gov’t, the doctors, the “experts,” and even specialized computers can no longer tell us what we need because we are all equally capable of seeing that for ourselves
That is absolutely true and VERY important. If grown children run from the homestead and never look back it's because we gave them a lifestyle of burden and no thought patterns for creating solutions other than escape. I've been on my homestead for 7 years. During the first year here there were only five very sparse edible plant varieties and two varieties of grasses from April till winter. This spring and summer, 7 years later, we have over 90 varieties of edibles and 12 varieties of grasses and sedges, and it was a severe drought year. I planted none of them not did I provide them with watered. It was nature's response to our love and thought. When you walk from our land to neighboring lots, you do not see the same variety of plants as we have here. We do not weed or irrigate (although we do water new trees for the first year). We have planted gardens but they take care of themselves with heavy straw mulch which we apply only once each autumn. Our chores are minor and take very little time or effort because we used the power of our thought and our connection with nature to devise systems that are harmonious to our domain and to ourselves. Our time is available for joy and enjoyment which is how we choose to use it. The work of living here is not backbreaking. I enjoy hardwork and I get that in building our structures each summer. Next year we'll be building our first community building (already started).The homestead shouldn’t be a place of burden, where grown children run from when they can finally get away from the chores, the weeding, etc., and never look back, as have those of past generations.
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Yes, but you don’t place yourself in a cesspool to begin with. You create the best you can create and then the residual is what continues to refine.That inner work requires the 'pressure' from unwanted outer experiences in order to expand conscious awareness of my inner thought patterns causing the outer effects in my experiences.
How do you know that it’s not? I attended an online Conference recently with the Vesica Instiute who’s goal is to create a “Universal Spiritual Science.” https://vesica.org/articles/spiritual-science/ There were scientists and doctors from fiields such as Cymatics (the study of the effect of sound on matter), the Sacred Geometry of Energy Production at the Cellular Level (https://vesica.org/amazing-images-from- ... e-preview/), and several other doctors and scientists working with subtle energies, including Dr. Karim as the keynote speaker. The Science that I am seeing emerge explains why all of the natural healing and balancing modalities known to man work… ie, martial arts, Ayurdevic, Chinese Traditional Medicine, aromatherapy, sound therapy, color therapy, acupuncture, Jin Shin Jyutsu, Feng Shui, etc. It is cohesive and universal and simply game changing on so many levels. It’s time humanity learns the truth!It's not the One science that the priest's broke into many in order to disconnect the people from their nature and innate power (their own thought).
It’s all about the “effect on man”… this is the unit of measure that is applied in Biogeometry. What is good for the human being is good for all of life.
Doreya said that the technology and testing is all about the symptoms
It’s meeting people where they’re at. When someone is on a drug that they believe they need in order to save their life, it can be extremely helpful to remove the harmful symptoms of that drug first, so the person can start to think clearly and make better choices.and that in one test they had 90% success in mitigating the symptoms of the use of the drug 'interferon' (the #1 prescription drug at that time). Why "mitigate" a drug's effects for people who are still taking it?
When people are immersed in toxicity and are full of parasites, their emotions and thoughts are not coming from a healthy place. Clearing the air is a great place to start, IMO. I get that you feel that people need to feel the compression until the point where they “get it”.. maybe we’re finally there, enough people “get it” and it’s time to get on with our new future. Now we have a mess to clean up, and here we have tools to make that a joy rather than a burden.Why address the environmental issues while the people are still living the lifestyle that is causing the problems in the environment (still taking the pills)?
You have read way more into this statement than exists… she is just acknowledging that perhaps some people feel this is a benefit, but her main point is that they are horrible for the human body. Again, once corrections are made, people will be able to feel when something is off, they will start to intuitively know when they have gone against Nature.Doreya said "electric cars are very good for the environment...but not for the body of the driver and passengers".
No, just clearing the air… few people are thinking clearly right now. We definitely become aware of the power of our thought in the further study of Biogeometry. We can see and actually measure its effects, and find what practices help improve our abilities. No longer do we have to rely on gurus or experts to tell us what we need to do, we can measure and decide for ourselves if it is worth our efforts.According to the interview "energy is the ability to produce effects." It is also true that "thought energy produces effects". But biogeometry doesn't appear to be studying the effects of thought, "the unparalleled force in all of space". They are mitigating the effects of man's unmanaged thought allowing people to depend on the devices rather than expand conscious awareness of their thought.
Completely untrue… you are only looking at the lowest level of Biogeometry, the person who buys a few of the tools and uses them. The Science of Biogeometry puts the human being at the Center of Everything.You've said that biogeometry is a good transition but how can that be when those who use the biogeometry technology and principles have submitted their own unparalleled force, which is thought, to the lesser technology of the biogeometry science and they remain unaware of the role of their own thought in the experience?
There always are… people have choices about whether to get well, some will always choose, on some level, to stay ill.Doreya said they have 90% success in eliminating symptoms. That remaining 10% is critically important. It means there are factors at work that haven't been considered.
The environment is critical to the development of man’s thought. There is so much going on in our subconscious programming and our disturbed biology that we can’t even begin to think clearly. To create a place of calm and peace, as in the power centers of the planet, is essential for humanity to start to think clearly.Mr. Karim told a medical group to "consider the environment as a form of preventive medicine". This is what he is doing, and he's missing the key element as is the medical science. That key element is man's thought.
Exactly… who can think clearly when they are bombarded by electrosmog and stress of every kind?She sees the improvement of thought as the result of correct use of "this technology", which is how she described the mental/emotional improvements of the church people in the second Switzerland study.
Again, I feel your image of the “Biogeometry devices” is mistaken. In the Science of Biogeometry, shapes, angles and numbers can be used to enhance the quality of the energy in an object, being or space. It is simply the way Nature works, and using that to create an amazingly healthy space. It’s not complicated or technological, and doesn’t require “devices” other than what is found in nature. Our hand makes the same shape as the “L’s” that are sold on Biogeometry websites. By truly understanding the way nature works, how matter is formed, how energy moves about us and enhances or detracts from life, we can arrange our spaces and creations to the greatest benefit of all.I believe people may be unconsciously using their thought force to empower the biogeometry devices because they don't know the potential in the direct management of their thought power. And I don't see that as a particularly good thing. Like all the separated sciences, biogeometry practices may tend to disconnect people from their true nature and innate power and teach them to project their thought power to a new and improved science and technology. It changes the effects of man's thought without man's conscious involvement with his thought and its conscious expansion. That still leaves people powerless to 'directly manage' their thought for expanding love, joy and harmony in their lives and relationships. Medications do the same thing. How is this a good transition to a lifestyle built from greater conscious awareness?
I’m sure you’ve heard of structured water… there are many ways to create it, it can be made by passing water over a vortex… this can be done naturally through a stream, or it can be done by using a “device” which you place over a bottle and pass the water through. Either way, you get “structured water” which is more healthy for you. Obviously, the stream water would be ideal, no need for a “device” that had to be manufactured, but not everyone can access the stream water. So, using the device is one way to get healthier water, which will help people to rehydrate and feel better and be able to take action to maybe get out into nature and get some stream water (though that’s not necessarily a healthy thing to do in most parts of the world right now). Water can also be structured through prayer, or through beautiful music, certain words (which are our expression of our thought forms), lightening, or exposure to different colored lights, etc…. some people may insist that only prayer (thought) should be used, and that’s what I feel like you’re doing here. Healthy water is important for everyone and people are much less likely to start thinking clear thoughts while they’re drinking unhealthy water. Let’s not be scrupulous about the little bit of “technology” that might be used in this case.My last point is about Doreya's discussion of Sacred power spots and how the biogeometry methods are measuring and recreating that healing energy and "super-imposing" it in people's homes. As I understand Anastasia's messages about creating a Space of Love on ones plot of land, and as I have experienced the effect of creating and living in an ever-expanding Space of Love, every kins domain that is made into a Space of Love accomplishes the same thing except not superimposed. It's the same as creating a sacred power spot that always and effortlessly emanates from every particle of one's own homeland.
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